Curse

lacasner · Dec 09, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Because, after this last chapter purchase no income will be made, and expansions will just be added. If I was Anet, or if anyone else wanted to run a bussiness then we would want profit. I want expansion, more content, and think that the only way this will happen is with a monthly fee. If your thinking expansions Burning Cruesade, yea your right, but that is 1 year+ and its worth the new and exciting game Anet will provide imo.

Count to Potato · Dec 09, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

I think if cutscenes were like the Guildwars preview with those good graphics, i'd pay for a monthyly fee, other than that no

Dalimoor_Kalkire · Dec 09, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Count to Potato

I think if cutscenes were like the Guildwars preview with those good graphics, i'd pay for a monthyly fee, other than that no

Heh, I agree

Coming from a game that paid monthly, I don't mind, but it would have to offer more then what Guild Wars does. Fighting through campaign to campagin is getting old, quick. Offering a monthly fee would probably kill the game for many players, but not all.

I don't know how much it cost for them to run this game, develope, maintain, and so forth. There is one problem with offering a fee...we are so use to having the game be free, and in the back of our heads we'll always been saying "This use to be free".

I see a trend of older continents being deserted for new areas, and I don't think a fee will bring new stuff like you said. While, in all honesty I would love to see some of that stuff, it most likely will not get added.

lacasner · Dec 09, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01

It was never free, we still payed for it. Also, why do you think a fee would not do this?

ectospasm · Dec 09, 2006, 11:00 PM // 23:00

pay for a game thats as restricting as guild wars?! are you insane? i wouldnt pay 5 bucks a month for it. thats like asking someone would they "pay" 50 bucks a month to sit in a jail cell for a crime they didnt commit. lol

aron searle · Dec 09, 2006, 11:09 PM // 23:09

a monthly fee would end this game, too many would rage quit. And those that stay will just keep comparing what they get for more money to what they got when it was free, and 90% of them would probably feel ripped off.

It dosnt matter how good your argments are, how much thought you put into it, it dosnt matter how right you are (or not as is the case), people expect it to be free because thats what the box says.

The end

Angelica · Dec 09, 2006, 11:09 PM // 23:09

First I'd like to say this is not a complain just my opinion.

I wouldn't mind to pay a monthly fee ..... only if the game would be a little easier or like Prohecies, (my preferred campaign) because I'm only a PvE and I play the game slowly I don't like to have to do things like collecting faction, sunspear or lightbringer points!

Most of all I don't like not to be able to get around at my pleasure and everywhere, I hate closed gates/doors and the imposition that if I don't do that particular quest/mission I cannot go on with the game.

I do all the missions and quests, all my characters (9) have completed Prophecies and Factions. Only my elonian born ranger has completed Nightfall

and now she is in Cantha doing quests and missions.

I will never ever take any of my 8 characters to Elona, which I find too hard and not easy to find PUGs.

Nightfall, in my opinion, is very disappointing to me.

I must tell you that I'm a lady not a "1337" player and that I play just for pleasure and I'm not much competent in building up skilled characters! May be it's for these things that my guildies don't take me with them!

@lacasner - Who are you.....really?

PS. Please don't flame me .... It gets me upset, but this post can be deleted with no problems on my part.

lacasner · Dec 09, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by Angelica

@lacasner - Who are you.....really?

I am a human being..who apparently put a thought which many people don't understand here

. I thought some others would get it..and that I wouldn't get the mindless response: "OH NOES ZOMG WADAFUX UP I DUN WANNA PAY, IM A FANBOI WANNABE MOD AND UR THE n00b MAKIN DIS GAME BAD. SUXXORS"!(yes this is exageratted but you get my point)

The idea came from the acknowledged thought :you get what you pay for. Therfor, by paying you get more, more people have more fun. Is that so hard to understand? For everyone that is bored, this is the only way to end it imo. It will not change, yes we are paying more but in the end we will have more fun.

gamecube187 · Dec 09, 2006, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by Gorebrex

Monthly subscription=Will not play, ever, except for a "free trial"

Same. Even if not everyone pays, and the people that pay get specail access to something is bad enough to get me to stop playing any game (or never play a game if I haven't played it yet).

If we do something like this, then all the endgame content (which is often the best part of GW) will require a fee to access. Either that or the best of the endgame content will require a fee, which is just as bad.

If GW really needs money, then why not offer things in the online store that don't affect gameplay? Maybe give us the ability to chose which chapter's log in screen we use? I'll buy that. Plushie chars and other GW chars? I might buy that too. Maybe even special minipets and emotes or something? (thats probably pushing it or even going overboard, just because it slightly affects gameplay) I might possibly buy that.

I'd much rather something like that than a monthly fee of any kind, because to me, a monthly fee=not going to play the game.

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Originally Posted by lacasner

Ok, for the math inept, ill put it this way (of monthly fee calculations).

New chapter =50-70 dollars (depending on CE or not)

For monthly fee=10 dollars per month

Both average to 60 dollars over a 6 month period, but with this new content I can safely predict MUCH MORE players will stick around, therfor making GW more profitable for Anet.

I don't get this, if your paying the same amount why does it matter if it is at once or over a period of time?

EDIT

You are forgeting something. A monthly fee does not mean that we don't also have to buy that game.

Take WoW for example. It has a monthly fee. I have no clue how much per month, so lets just say $10 per month for arguments sake. Now that will be $60 in 6 months. Yes, that's about the same as GW, but you also have to buy the game in the first place before you even start with the monthly fee. If the game costs $50 at the store, that would be $110 in 6 months.

For GW, that means buy the game every six months for $50 to $70, and then afterwards, you would have to pay a monthly fee. That ends up being about double of how much GW currently costs.

aron searle · Dec 09, 2006, 11:25 PM // 23:25

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Originally Posted by lacasner

I am a human being..who apparently put a thought which many people don't understand here

.

We just dont agree with you

Theres a difference

lacasner · Dec 09, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

This stubborn ignorant view is strange for me to understand. If this game would have a monthly fee, costing the same over a span of time a guild wars chapter would cost to implement, you are paying the same amount of money. However, Anet would be reviving old areas, making cool new stuff to explore, and perhaps add new items and loot too.

I don't get it, you want things like emotes and log in screens instead of new gameplay? Why? If you just want to look at pretty pictures go to an art gallery, I personally want to play and enjoy this game.

I understand you don't agree, but you just didn't give one reason why..I gave many plus reasons..you guys are just coming off a bit unlogical thats all.

HolyHawk · Dec 09, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29

I don't quite follow you, but I believe the game success is just because the formula Anet adopted is pretty solid. Considering the support they do, and the quality of the servers, I'd be willing to pay for a monthly fee (and only because I can afford it), but since things are just so perfect now, I don't see why to change.

aron searle · Dec 09, 2006, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by lacasner

This stubborn ignorant view is strange for me to understand.

Where being stubborn and ignorant, oh ok now i agree with you as you put it like that

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If this game would have a monthly fee, costing the same over a span of time a guild wars chapter would cost to implement, you are paying the same amount of money.

Yes and you have yet to explain (succsefully) how we would get more for paying the same amount of money.

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However, Anet would be reviving old areas, making cool new stuff to explore, and perhaps add new items and loot too.

You mean like what a new chapter is designed to do

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I don't get it, you want things like emotes and log in screens instead of new gameplay? Why? If you just want to look at pretty pictures go to an art gallery, I personally want to play and enjoy this game.

Thats good, pick a few stupid suggestions to make your argument look stronger than it really is.

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I understand you don't agree, but you just didn't give one reason why..I gave many plus reasons..you guys are just coming off a bit unlogical thats all.

Exaclty what reasons have you given, because reading back all i can see is you stating over and over and over again "monthly fee = more content" but not giving any concret arguments why and slowly slipping into name calling.

good luck.

cooljelly · Dec 09, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Including a monthly fee is a huge step.
The problem I see in this situation is that the people who kind of want more updates and are unsatisfied with Nightfall are the PVE people.
Based on the core design of the game, PVE will indeed become less interesting as more chapters got released.

Even with a monthly fee, I seriously doubt there is anything they can do about it without breaking the essence of the current game. I hope people all notice the difference between guild wars and some other online games. That is what I am most impressed by guild wars, the difference, the idea... It makes me feel that it is a game similar to magik, or chess and will live longer than any online games out there. Nightfall is great to me, because I like the new classes, and the new skills I get for the core classes. Those are more related to PvP aspect of the game, which I think is why the game is so great to me, even after one year of play.

So when I read the OP's post, I was thinking, maybe guild wars is not the game the OP is looking for.

gamecube187 · Dec 09, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54

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Originally Posted by lacasner

This stubborn ignorant view is strange for me to understand. If this game would have a monthly fee, costing the same over a span of time a guild wars chapter would cost to implement, you are paying the same amount of money. However, Anet would be reviving old areas, making cool new stuff to explore, and perhaps add new items and loot too.

I don't get it, you want things like emotes and log in screens instead of new gameplay? Why? If you just want to look at pretty pictures go to an art gallery, I personally want to play and enjoy this game.

I understand you don't agree, but you just didn't give one reason why..I gave many plus reasons..you guys are just coming off a bit unlogical thats all.

What you are saying is that we have a monthly fee and not have to pay to buy the game, right? If that is what you are saying, then it won't acually be that different than how it is now. ArenaNet will still be making the same amount of income, so they will still do just about the same as what they do now.

Also, a monthly fee makes people feel like they have to play as much as possible in order to get their money's worth. Sometimes, they even play when they don't want to because they have to pay monthly, and if they don't play at all in a month, then it seems like money they wasted. I've also heard that some of the games that require a monthly fee will accually delete your account if you unsubscribe. That would also make players feel like they need to keep subscribing, even if they don't want to play, or they know they are going on a vacaction or something like that or a month or longer, so they won't be able to play. That would also make them feel like they are wasting money.

With how GW is now, you don't have to worry about playing as much as possible to get your money's worth, because you have already payed in full for what you have. You can take a break for months at a time and not feel like you aren't getting your moneys worth, because you have already payed for it. Also, you don't have to worry about your account being deleted for unsubscribing, because there is no subscription, and as far as I know, ArenaNet doesn't delete accounts, no matter how long they have been inactive. Also, buying it all at once allows for things like CE, where only paying monthly does not.

Another thing, you don't have to buy the new GW chapters. You could only buy one chapter and play that for years and years, but never buy another one if you wanted to. With a monthly subscription, but no buying the chapters, it will be the exact oposite, untill you unsubscribe. You will get every chapter, but you will also be forced to buy every chapter all the way untill you unsubscribe.

Now you asked why I would rather have things like buying log in screens? It's because you don't have to buy them. If you don't think a log in screen is worth your money, you don't have to buy it, just like you don't have to buy the chapters if you don't think it's worth your money. Same thing with the plushies. Now with the subscriptions, you have to pay as long as you want to play the game.

Basically, the way I see it, paying a subscription makes players feel more "ripped off" than having something that the player doesn't have to buy, but probably will buy anyway.

Ninna · Dec 09, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56

no monthly fee

even tho the "overall costs" may simulate a monthly fee,
its not the same

I *dont have to buy* any further chapters and I can still log into the game

lacasner · Dec 09, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56

No lol, I like guild wars.

But bored players, like me, want new content.

For this to happen, a monthly fee pretty much has happen. I don't want to pay money lol. But i am willing to pay money to improve this game I love.

New chapters aren't new content imo, it is just different scenery. The people here against my idea are not bored, obviously. That is cool, I was not bored about 3 months ago either. Again, please guys read everything before you post. This idea isn't as linear as you think, if you have an idea how it can become better go right ahead. Hell, if you think that this chapter production over and over again is a recipe for success, you can do that. I just think with the maps available in Guild Wars, and the quests and options it has, this direction I proposed is the way to go.

Ninna · Dec 09, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

have a monthly fee for people that want added content / features

but let people play the game without a monthly fee too...
(without the added content/features)

lacasner · Dec 10, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01

Cool that was also a possibilty I said, probably the most feasible one of all

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PrismOfRedLight · Dec 10, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

lol, horrible idea, gw was made so that you didnt have to pay more than the game which gave a nice freedom feel too it and also like its been said paying monthly is ******* retarded since youd be paying the same or more than what you already pay so you wouldnt get new shit, just the pressure of having to pay monthly.

oh and im sorry if your bored but theres always other games, and getting a life